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Post by wchnu on Nov 15, 2009 21:37:38 GMT -5
Most people who know me also know this is my favorite Shave soap. I get consistently good lather and great shaves from it. Since it has been around since the what ....1840's? the connection to the past is great too.
Give me my a lather catcher.. Some Williams and a good boar brush and I am set forever.
Fuzzy
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Post by wchnu on Dec 12, 2009 22:27:20 GMT -5
I was reading some Williams bashing down the street and had to make a reply so though I would post it here too. I feel sorry for folks that can not learn the skill to use Williams. I can not say that I have problems getting a good lather.. or it drying out... I have hard water here and have lived in the sticks where we had well water.. does not get harder then that. I get as good a shave with my Williams and Colgate Soaps ( the Colgate love is a whole nother thread.) as I do with much more expensive soaps. At a fraction of the cost. There is also something to be said for using a traditional product like the Williams Mug Soap .. specially when I use one of my Gem Juniors. If you do not like it then don't use it.. but don't blame your lack of technique on the product. Fuzzy That oughta learn um...
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Post by 1oldgi on Dec 13, 2009 15:56:31 GMT -5
Can't say I cared much for the tone of the other post bashing Williams. The title was "Williams Mug Soap Sucks" or something like that. From where I'm sitting, if you're dealing with a product that has been on the market for 100+ years and it sucks, you can almost bet that it's you not the product. Oh well, a bad carpenter will always blame his tools.
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Post by wchnu on Dec 14, 2009 0:04:33 GMT -5
Can't say I cared much for the tone of the other post bashing Williams. The title was "Williams Mug Soap Sucks" or something like that. From where I'm sitting, if you're dealing with a product that has been on the market for 100+ years and it sucks, you can almost bet that it's you not the product. Oh well, a bad carpenter will always blame his tools. Hey good to see you over this way... and I agree completely. Fuzzy
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Post by specialk on Dec 15, 2009 11:19:19 GMT -5
I'm still working on the Williams. I have used it twice and got so-so lathers. Just need to find that proper water/soap ratio. I am sure it will be a good soap once I get that down.
Would you say you use more water than say when you are working with VDH?
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Post by rocketman on Dec 15, 2009 12:39:58 GMT -5
For years I thought the only shaving soap that didn't come in a can was Williams. I used it exclusively for ages. Before I became so knowledgeable and wet-shave cultured I only ever did one thing with it - the same thing for years. I think I must have seen my dad do it and then I never ever thought about it again. Walk into the bathroom to shave. Grab the mug with the Williams puck and fill it half full of hot water. Stick in the brush. Piss around for a few minutes finding my razor and yawning. Dump out the mug. Give the brush one light shake and lather up!! Between latherings I might have added a teensy drip or two of hot to moisten, but Williams is so kind it just seems to keep on giving! I really do like Williams. The one draw back for me is that after using it my skin sort of shrinks up a little and dries tight - kind of like when just washing with regular ivory type soap. (It can make me a little flaky too - but we don't need to go there!) But that is easily overcome with a rinse and a light lotion or balm or whatever. Williams Rox!
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Post by Possum on Dec 15, 2009 12:44:34 GMT -5
Okay, been reading this thread with interest. I tried to find (not really hard) some Williams last spring. No luck so I bought some VDH glycerin soap. Not really good stuff nor bad either. Finally used it as a bath soap. Back to the Williams, I am going to go on a quest this afternoon looking for "The Mug". I had used it as a young man some 40 years ago and found it did the job then. Got it from my uncle the barber. Now a days not barbers do any shaving around me and if they do they use those hot lather machines. Anyway, I hope I can find some of "The Mug" cause if I don't then I expect Fuzzy or Dave to send me a puck. Other wise I am going to go on a tear bashing "The Mug" until they do. Almost forgot to ask. How does "The Mug" work in superlather? I have some SCS cream that just burns the devil out of my face when used alone. Yesterday I made some superlather with my MWF and the SCS cream and there was no burning. Figured that I could use "The Mug" to make some superlather when that cream came up in my cream rotation.
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Post by wchnu on Dec 15, 2009 15:52:27 GMT -5
I'm still working on the Williams. I have used it twice and got so-so lathers. Just need to find that proper water/soap ratio. I am sure it will be a good soap once I get that down. Would you say you use more water than say when you are working with VDH? I am not sure if I use more water or not... what I do with all my soaps and creams is start with a rather dry brush and keep dipping the tips into water and working the soap/cream till it gets where I want it. If I am face lathering then I will sometimes add a touch of water on the tips to get the right feel. That works for me all the time. Bryce if you needa some Williams let me know I can send ya some quick fast and in a hurry even. But stop it with the super lather stuff.. no super lather no glycerin. LEAVE THE WILLIAMS ALONE FOLKS.. it works great out of the box. Fuzzy
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Post by Possum on Dec 15, 2009 16:34:17 GMT -5
Fuzzy,
I do my soap technique like Zach suggests. Get a fairly wet brush, usually boar and load the brush with loads of soap. Then do the face lather thing. I usually get enough lather for 3 passes with a bit left over. On occasion I do need to load up a bit for the last pass.
When I do the super lather I do the soap the same way and then put the cream in my mug and make the lather in the mug. Only done it a couple times and did not need to add any more soap or cream. Made great lather.
I intend to use "The Mug" by itself and when the cream comes up in the rotation make super lather to avoid the irritation from the cream alone.
As for finding a puck of "The Mug" I did find it at CVS pharmacy. Unfortunately they did not have any on stock but expect it to be back on the shelf by Thursday afternoon. Will go back and get a puck and then give it a try on Friday by itself and Saturday in super lather.
Thanks for the offer of the puck. I will wait to take you up on something else that I can't find in the future. If there are any of my creams that you would want to try let me know, I have a ton of sample containers from TSD and C&E that I could send some in.
Have a great day,
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Post by wchnu on Dec 15, 2009 22:06:03 GMT -5
I looked at Zach's method seems to waste a lot of soap. Just my thinking. But whatever gets the lather made works huh. Glad you found a place to pick some up.
Fuzzy
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Post by Possum on Dec 16, 2009 14:03:00 GMT -5
Hit the jackpot today. Went to another CVS and found some of "The Mug". Just did a test lather and did not do too well. Not feeling to good right now (bad Long John Silver's Fish Sandwich) so will give it another go either later this afternoon or in the morning.
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Post by specialk on Dec 16, 2009 14:16:28 GMT -5
2nd attempt at the Williams and had good results. I did cheat and added a little glycerin. I will go straight up next time.
How would you describe the scent of Williams Mug Soap? It is unique and I do like it....
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Post by wchnu on Dec 16, 2009 16:42:09 GMT -5
2nd attempt at the Williams and had good results. I did cheat and added a little glycerin. I will go straight up next time. How would you describe the scent of Williams Mug Soap? It is unique and I do like it.... That would be the Williams smell.. best I can do.. some compare it to the bug candle LOL Fuzzy
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Post by specialk on Dec 16, 2009 17:11:55 GMT -5
Well, I kinda like the bug candle smell anyways...LOL
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Post by wchnu on Dec 16, 2009 20:03:52 GMT -5
Well, I kinda like the bug candle smell anyways...LOL I agree.. It is a pleasant scent to me. Viva la Williams ;D Fuzzy
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